• how do we view animals right now
    • Usually don't apply irl and in debate
    • we rarely discuss animals in round
    • extinction usually kills all animals
    • ethical systems
    • justification for util is that pain is bad, pleasure good
    • occams razor simplest solution
      • you will rarely see that you should value a groups please over another
      • util should extend to animals
    • kant
      • why is something good for you good for everyone else
      • animals have interests just like humans
      • things that have interests should be fufilled
      • animals show an interest in not dying
    • impact calculus
      • rarely use animal lives
      • address it in round
      • judges sometimes have biases so its good
      • ant may be able to interpret in a smaller degree
      • don't know how bad it is
    • warming is probable and magnitude
      • bad timeframe
      • animals helps impact calc
      • 60% of animals die from climate change
      • biodiversity loss
      • amount of lives lost for animals
    • animal benitard
      • animals suffer in the wild
        • extinction animals good
      • extinction humanh good
        • lower suffering good
      • anthro K
        • not usually saying worth of animals
        • they say root cause
    • must be vegitarian theory
      • badddddd
      • just no bro